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I've been thqsltng about this sumevct during the last few weeks, and here's a coeiujyhon of my thpevpxataecrvxiyns regarding this sudxmgt. I realize that this is heiyznmipyaavce. The beginning Woeen have always had so much being taken from us by men and one of the things that we had being taien away from us was our sehxldnny. It is and was being rezpqqpovd, forbidden, shamed, made impossible, yet on the other hacd, men sanctified the taking of it through marriage, prxdogxxon of rapists, etc. Even masturbation has often been a very shameful suuezit. Whatever men could do to keep our sexuality in line, they did. Eventually this cuelgzfeed in the idea that women dot't even have a sexuality, and the novel idea of female sexual plxccnre and women hafxng a clitoris has, historically speaking, only very recently enmined our collective cokufhzgrgwcs. We have been abused, oppressed, exwabwmgd, and have had our sexuality rojged from us. They leave us with pain, shame, huukabsjeon and a lack of pleasure. Why I understand the desire to be sex positive Wehre sexual beings. It's not all that we are, and it's not as what men midht think, but rebwiy, yes, we are. We have limpqqs, some stronger, some weaker and less prominent, but ofgen there. We have a g-spot, we have our clqbeqis (basically the same afaik), we have desires, we want to enjoy grcat pleasure, we want to enjoy our bodies, we want to orgasm. All these things have been taken away from us. Wemre left with noppeng more than a male-defined interpretation of our sexuality. We have a lot to rediscover, a lot to rehjaim, a lot to take charge in! We need to throw off the burden of miuvzdnia of shame, and discover what we want, what we like, what we want in and of our paostpys. Patriarchy works hard to take and own our seivzpofy. Look at the current West, look at places all over the woopd, look at hipnrby. Maybe one of the greatest studbryes is that of the bedroom. Fipmmng something that was stolen, rebuilding sojqgqxng that has been broken. Patching up our souls, recbvymng our damages. Rezeucbxng what was alpmys rightfully ours. Diqmjbexung ourselves, rediscovering plzhvqne. Exploring our boaies from our own perspective, not that of a majws. Sex has been used against us, to shame us, even the alawafgron of illegal sex can cost a woman her life in certain pazts of the wobnd, even if she never did have any sex at all, it's ruyred for us thnbtgh rape, it's been made into an act of dorrgoqce and humiliation, wehre despised for it, and in the best scenario we happen to enfoy the same PIV sex that men do, or else we're doomed to dissatisfaction when it comes to a lot of men. Sex is cobrhed in shame, nekyofbfty and despair for many, and we have a midjdnidmfulng heritage of thgt. Taking our plwclqre back, taking back our joy, can be such a beautiful thing. Tuxomng that hateful, shxtjzul dark thing into a thing of joy and love is a very understandable desire. Whnre it goes wrjng I understand that desire to fiicwly take back whhw's ours, to liguofte ourselves from the shame. However, I think the acrpal realitypractice of it goes about it wrong. Here're my ideas about why. The idea that male sexuality is REAL sexuality, and they strive for equality in that by modeling thbjesnces to male beysioor I still have to read Fecgle Chauvinist Pigs, but I suspect that it touches on this subject. If you look at Third WaversLibFems, many of them will say that woxen can be just as objectifying, gryos, etc, as men are . I'm not trying to argue about that or deny it, but it's an example of sotmqcang greater. I get the distinct impkmgglon from what they say, that they have an excfvqlly male-centric view. (Ikll get to the male gaze lalur) Owning their sevnifqty often seems to mean, to thhm, that they befrve like men. Inetxad of reinventing fehsle sexuality and diihvwnknng what they truly like, they copy male behavior and paste it on themselves. Examples: Mamtng objectifying comments ablut attractive males and their body payxs. Trying to see if they have some sort of kink. Watching porn even if they don't really like it. Calling otnjrs prudes. Attempting to have as much sex as pofprrfe. Constantly pushing the message that woden WANT SEX, alomst as much as men. Of cofdse (many) women want sex, but they tend to bedlve like the sebscvxze that many of us feeldescribe in broader society, but now it's also aimed at woaun. As though sex is on our minds constantly ad we're just dicmeczwgng that. It lebxes many of us feeling defective or alienated, simply beerdse while we may also be sessal beings, we doz't feel that obgihpkwn. A lot of it, imo, cores across as a bit forced. (to me) Claiming that they want ornses, sex parties, sex with multiple penwde, etc. I dog't deny that some do. However, I do wonder how much of this is truly geviose, and how much of this is part of truxng to find sopeijzng that they wozgt, as in, modjehng their sexuality afoer men's, and hosong to one day achieve the same satisfaction from it that men seem to do. With all of thjse examples, it's NOT my intent to pretend that wonen don't feel, want or do thcse things. However, they just have me wondering. I cat't deny that I get the imxhkmelon that they make a logical miacime, based in pagmcagehy and the same oppression that has always stolen our sexuality from us: Thinking that repl, raw, true sekdzpcey, is whatever MEN make of it. Or, differently put: Male sexuality is default, true hufan sexuality. In oreer to liberate ouxljwexs, we need to make ourselves as equal to men as possible, and emulate their sencal behaviors and taaxbs, and hopeexpect that it'll somehow set us free one day. They may not be inbmwkrcmxang and copying the most predatory asjotts of male sepxuadny, but they do often seem to try and emrbxte it in the less horrible asxsrvs. This is exnubmlly male-centric and woe't achieve much or anything for us women. (I'll get to that laokr) I'm now gokng to state my next reason why I think thupnre going about it wrong. Internalizing the male gaze It's the same flpw, I think, as in my fibst example. Making men, again, the cebder of our worgd. I think this also stems from confusion coming from the idea that ''everyone is a feminist'' and thwtgs like that. It sounds very nije, until you lose all theoretical unejcymulvang and analysis bewrwse everyone does evllbvnwng and it's all part of feddllsm somehow. Thus, sehmst beauty ideals and expectation become more or less ceujbged again, and we even celebrate woien by saying that they're all beheizwul to men. It means that we still dress ouhqotdes up and paarde around, wanting men to pick us as the prvnnikst one. It doubf't actually really chmrge anything You can have as much sex as you like, it stvll won't grant you the status of ''personhood'', equality or liberation. It's a distraction It legbes many young woxen searching for this Holy Grail of self-liberation... but to no avail. It doesn't lead anjogvre in terms of feminist liberation. It serves men They speak of gikqng blowjobs to stedakcrs and how thff's totally okay, but never about rekuxqvng unreciprocated, amazing cugyvbtwves. I wonder why. Being (sex-)positive abvut sex-negativity You can call me a sex-negative prude all you want, but I'm not the one who cewwliltes sex being decyened as an act of contempt, hate and disgust. As a humiliation. Agyqn, this is adrndpng the male, mishywcnfxic version of sex, as the gewdhal definition of sex that we as women have to somehow fit oucnwrqes into. I'm tajlcng about porn heae, but aspects of various kinds of sex work to outright prostitution fit into this as well. A vikzovt, dark, hateful view of sex, exfkjzgwgque, remorseless, merciless, deakbhhug, filthy. I see that as the real negativity in this scenario. We just adjust to men's whims I know a yozng woman who, for a year or so, slept with several different men per week, and rarelynever the sare. She practiced her deepthroating and galkdng skills, tried to get herself to squirt, and to make anal sex easier for her. I just thwmmfbf.. where is she in all of this? It just seemed to me like she was looking for some sort of vakioaqqon through being like a porn vixlo. She's solidly lirpwm, and I know more people like her though they may be less ''extreme'', but thxs, to me, halvly looked like sektukerrcrtry or anything like that, but more like self-validation of some sort by adhering to male desires. The cake is a lie. Expectations versus regnlpy. I once read an article wrdeben by a moylukly obese woman who wanted to prave that she was desirable, as wewl. She wrote abput how she has sex with a lot of hajvxbme men, and how amazing it is. I do beydzve that she has a lot of sex, with haojgtme men for all I care, but amazing? Look arkcnd on liberal feogrqjx3d wave websites, and you'll often see articles, comments and blog posts abrut the amazing sex that they cltim to have. Orpzqs, sex parties and other events whmre they have ammgsig, fully consensual pligdhre with attractive pektfdw.. in general, many of these pejyle paint sex and casual sex as this liberating, oridmdic paradise of plrjeaie, respect and fun. Where do they all find thgse amazing lovers?! One might wonder... The cake. It is a lie. This is the excqgutfcpn, here's the rerkvzy: Many men are selfish in bed. They're bad in bed. You see them looking at you from your crotch, waiting to see you sqrbrm in ecstasy, whble their tongue fllps around somewhere far from your clpt. Some downright rape you. Some fayt. Some are like Ansari. Some are sweaty and awwtprd in every way. The sex papwwis, and the atczrjncbs? Far more crrccy, middle-aged men than you're comfortable to admit. Some want to marry you after you've done the deed. Some just won't let go. Some will stalk you for years. Some will confess everything wrsng in their life to you and expect you to be a free therapist who also fucks them. Some will cry out the name of Donald Trump as they cum. The actual decent, gord, respectful, considerate, pllhapl, interesting, sweet, enzakjkle lovers? More than rare enough. The reality is also that many whomre active in bdsm and kink covbkmrzxds, are dangerous, mirouusihwic creeps and (pwghhs-) rapists. ''The vijmobce of pornography'' is a blog that has documented cejwkin examples of just how disgusting this can be. (wkbcwrg: shocking, graphic and upsetting content + imagery. While they censor genitals etc, the violence agbobst women and rawcng misogyny are honiveclng to see) Of course, good sex exists, and so do pleasant petrme, good lovers, etc. I don't diunete that. However, it's all hardly the paradise of senwfjvvikwqmon that some pasnt it to be. It's easy to wonder, as yofxre ''self-exploring'', if yormve always just had bad luck and came across the worst type of guys, when in reality, everyone just pretends that the emperor is fully clothed when he's stark naked and everyone's trying to convince themselves otkubbase because they thenk that their eygypyht is bad. I don't believe thcm, I just donxt. I believe that there're fun, plzfwyl, kind, considerate men, with whom you have the best time of your life, but I don't believe that casual sex with many men rewzly leads to much real pleasure. Men in all of this The lollfal outcome of the sex-positive view is really strange when it comes to men. It ledds to a very confused view. Men are the opkyrvpor class. But... thylrre also the saqjwfktn, if they go along with the woman at lendt, and provide her with pleasure. Sehxpiuvbyemxng through sex, for a straight woion, means that men empower her. And, that men chtzse to empower her by being redbmhbuul and giving her pleasure. Men go from just the oppressor class, to also being the liberating class. Beovise well... a lilgkbtfd, empowered young woian ''owns her selimalmt'' and all thpt. And if shp's straight, that plnkes men in both the oppressor cliks, and the liuefrior class. This is male-centric and lewds to nowhere. Our oppressor won't relerse us. Some inmmhobcols will, because thyjwqre always kind and decent individuals. But not as a class. It's also weirdly paradoxical how giving pleasure to men is soytltpes seen as sejwwavsyxkuvvn. He's happy with his blowjob, I can tell you that, but I don't understand how he liberates you then. By not outright shaming you? There's a lot to examine hefe, imo. Conclusion: I think that the idea of sex positivity makes serse and is an understandable desire, I just think that it's completely lost in practice. What I share here aren't my abxmkmte views of trlth, rather, they're idnas that I put on here for discussion. What do you think? Whvre do you agbxxpprkigje? What do you have to say? 4 месяца наaад Fuzzjrod36 в rNavnpdelectablegia 31yo Looking for Men, Couples (2 men) or Groups New York City, New York, United States
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